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Alexei Denoia ([personal profile] fallenambitions) wrote in [community profile] lucetilocked2012-09-01 11:26 pm

[Locked to Residents]

[The locked system activates without much warning; it seemed like a bad idea to spread it around that anyone was going down there. Red is Alexei, Blue is Nephry]

Good evening, Luceti. I, Alexei Denoia and Miss Nephry Osborne have been working on creating a more compressed version of the guide for the more common misconceptions about Luceti.

There have been changes in the village and our overall knowledge in the past few months; added to the different explanations and disparate information that can drift around, it seems best to provide a place where we can lay out the truth, as it were.

We’ve compiled a list of what we’re already aware of, but feel free provide any other misconception we may have missed.

And it’s all right to ask questions about anything for which you need more clarification.

We’ll try to answer them if we can, and if not, I’m sure someone else will be able to explain for all of us.


[The Misconception section of the broadcast is written]

1) Firstly, we weren't brought here by the Malnosso. It is a Shift that brings us to this world; a similar Shift brought the Malnosso themselves here, before us. They have been here for far longer, trying to solve the problem of returning home, and the use of areas like Luceti is apparently the best solution they have been able to devise, for now. Though they may feel like our captors, we are in many ways safer within this barrier than outside of it.

2) As most of you have realized at this point, the world itself is not called Luceti. It is just the name of this particular enclosure. The Commandant, an agent/officer of the Malnosso, called this location “Region 6” as a matter of fact.

3) And as far as we have heard, the purpose of the shifts - large-scale and small, and even those of a more “personal” variety - is to find a way to return us all to where we belong. As terrible and chaotic as they can often be, in light of what we know now it seems that purpose is still true; there are just discrepancies in how the different factions of the Malnosso organization wish to go about it.

4) As of now, we are aware of four different “branches” of the organization: the researchers who handle the experiments in the village, the Security Forces that call us to drafts, the voluntary missions assigned by MARS, and those in a renegade group who “kidnap” us.



These are the more common pieces of misinformation we hear around Luceti and from the New Feathers. Hopefully, this will help to better clarify those who were misinformed and the New Feathers that will likely be arriving soon. Any further questions and additional information can now be brought to the table.


[[ooc: Threadhopping encouraged! Threading amongst each other is allowed. The first reply is an “index thread” so you can quick jump around if you want to. Long answers may take some time to get a response since things need to be double-checked]]
silversnowfall: (is that so)

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[personal profile] silversnowfall 2012-09-02 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
For all your discussion-finding needs! Please do not reply directly to this thread, thanks!
eyesofstrength: (003)

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[personal profile] eyesofstrength 2012-09-02 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
I do not know if it is common, but I have heard it said that the Malnosso are the cause of the death penalties and the wings as well. The information we have suggests that both are caused by this world and the only thing the Malnosso are responsible for with our arrival is the barcodes, giving us our journals and our belongings being taken and placed in the stores.

Also, the Malnosso have far more branches than just four. The numbers are unknown, however, but I did confirm with Specialist Davis that there are many. Also there are those among the Malnosso who used to live in enclosures just like we do.
stilldontgotit: (uncertainty)

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[personal profile] stilldontgotit 2012-09-02 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the problem is that people tend to want a scapegoat, and the Malnosso fit the bill pretty easily. But it's never that simple. All the different splits in the Malnosso organization are a testament to that.
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[personal profile] eyesofstrength 2012-09-02 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I can definitely understand that. It is a human weakness to wish for the easy way to deal with a problem, and placing blame means there is no need to deal with it.

But that blame placing is making things worse as the Malnosso think us a bunch of lunatics rather than considering us people who could be of help to them in finding a way home. Or in fighting this war since there are far more battles than we see as well. The Malnosso may not be a perfect group or even fully trustworthy, but place the blame where it is due.
stilldontgotit: (darkness smells weird)

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[personal profile] stilldontgotit 2012-09-02 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the Count complicated things a little. He made it seem like we really were just lab rats, and the whole bit about us being special was just a way to pacify us.

Not sure if that's actually true, but I think that further proves how fractured their organization really is.
eyesofstrength: (004)

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[personal profile] eyesofstrength 2012-09-02 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
And considering Albert Silverberg's conversation with Rem, it would appear that the Count will not be a problem any longer. That definitely confirmed my own suspicions about the heightened security at the end of that mission at his keep.

[And excuse the assassin who is responsible for hiding this fact. He just prefers not to admit to being an assassin in public.]
stilldontgotit: (uncertainty)

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[personal profile] stilldontgotit 2012-09-05 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
So he's toast, huh? Well, that's a relief. Still doesn't mean I'll take them up on any missions, but... that's just me being cautious.

I'm sure they've got their perks.
eyesofstrength: (028)

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[personal profile] eyesofstrength 2012-09-05 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
MARS definitely wanted him gone enough to send us to find blackmail material and then he vanishes and no one has any idea what happened. Definitely very suspicious and implies someone found a permanent means of removal before we did.

And with all the important figures in the organization present at that time, it would be unknown who was behind it and what actually happened. But it is easy to infer that he will not be a problem for us any longer.
stilldontgotit: (Now I have nothing to fear)

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[personal profile] stilldontgotit 2012-09-02 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)
So, let's talk about the barrier for a minute.

Now, I know plenty of people have tried to bust through it before. It failed, but I know there are still people looking for a way out. The problem is, the barrier's... kind of important. I was around when there were problems with it. People wound up getting possessed by spirits, and it was pretty hectic.

Not only that, but if you bring the barrier down, what's stopping the Third Party from making this place another Kin'cora? It stinks being trapped in a bubble, but I doubt eliminating it would help.
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eyesofstrength: (003)

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[personal profile] eyesofstrength 2012-09-02 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Weren't the Third Party able to break the barrier in the past and that was how we even found out about their presence in this world? I was not here at this time, but read of it on the journals. From what I saw, it appeared that the barrier isn't even a perfect protection, but it does buy time to prepare for battle. It is more like a wall around a castle to protect the ruler from attack, correct?
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[personal profile] godbent 2012-09-02 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
They didn't bring it down entirely. Or well, they forced someone else to. John gave us short notice and took it down in what was in retrospect probably trying to stop them from outright breaking it beyond however much was needed to get Jacob in part to test us to prove a point to the Organization. I mean, he also controlled the circumstances of it - lowered the power cap, shifted them to being weaker... for context, the first army was probably all Elites, based on what I saw at the time and hindsight.
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eyesofstrength: (048)

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[personal profile] eyesofstrength 2012-09-02 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
So they have the ability to break it, but John chose to break it rather than let them? Do we know his reasoning for this action?
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[personal profile] godbent 2012-09-02 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Like I said, controlled circumstances. I didn't talk long with him myself, but I got the impression he was telling people they've gotten in anyway, so he wanted it on his terms. [a beat] Considering it was a few hundred Elites and the General...

[they probably lived because of John's terms]
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[personal profile] eyesofstrength 2012-09-02 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
[Leonhardt chuckles a bit at that. He actually can fully understand wanting to do something on your terms.]

I can understand that actually. It may have gained an element of surprise which can make the difference between a win and a defeat and us becoming like Kin'Cora. It would appear John has some knowledge of battle strategy.
stilldontgotit: (wary)

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[personal profile] stilldontgotit 2012-09-02 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, shady as he is, John does know what he's doing. And if they had broken through the barrier, we probably would've ended up like Kin'cora.

Lowering the power cap and giving us time to prepare made a huge difference in the long run. What I'm wondering is what's stopped them from staging another attack like that.
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[personal profile] eyesofstrength 2012-09-02 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
[Leonhardt fully agrees with John being shady. He didn't even want his penalty removed because of that.]

We would need to know the reasons why we had to fight the battle and the Security Forces were not sent to even assist. At this point all we know is that only this enclosure appears to have sufficient numbers of combat trained individuals. Specialist Davis definitely stated that compared to the Third Party, the enclosures and the Malnosso do not have as many trained fighters, but more numbers in general.
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[personal profile] stilldontgotit 2012-09-05 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
They do act like we're the cream of the crop. And given how many powerful people are placed here, I can see why.

Not that the Third Party are pushovers. Especially their Shifters... Fighting them is like pulling teeth. Makes me glad they weren't around during the attack all those years ago.
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[personal profile] eyesofstrength 2012-09-05 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
The Dream Shifters are the worst of them all. Anything that can affect the subconscious is indeed very dangerous.
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[personal profile] everyonesconfidant 2012-09-02 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait... we weren't brought here by the Malnosso? Then how does that Shift bring us here, and what triggers it? If the Shifts result from the Malnosso trying to bring us home... are they responsible for the Shift that brings us here, too?

[Confused sorta-newbie is confused...]
stilldontgotit: (yeah right)

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[personal profile] stilldontgotit 2012-09-02 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
The Malnosso bring us into the enclosures, but that's about it. Seems like the world's what really drags people here, and the Malnosso are as trapped as we are.
everyonesconfidant: (plainfaced)

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[personal profile] everyonesconfidant 2012-09-02 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I see... I guess that makes more sense. So the world itself takes us here, then the Malnosso put us into the enclosures, probably for our own good. Does that sound about right?
silversnowfall: (is that so)

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[personal profile] silversnowfall 2012-09-04 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The implication is that if we were not in the enclosure, we could become the sacrifices of the Third Party instead. That death is...more permanent.
everyonesconfidant: (serious)

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[personal profile] everyonesconfidant 2012-09-04 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, that makes sense. The Malnosso do know how to resurrect us, anyway... kind of. As long as those cultists don't get their hands on us.
stilldontgotit: (wary)

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[personal profile] stilldontgotit 2012-09-05 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, they aren't the ones doing the resurrecting, either. They just pick us up before the Third Party does.
everyonesconfidant: (plainfaced)

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[personal profile] everyonesconfidant 2012-09-06 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Huh? Then who's resurrecting us when we die...? From the way people are talking, it almost seems like the Malnosso aren't responsible for anything but Shifts, and even then...
stilldontgotit: (uncertainty)

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[personal profile] stilldontgotit 2012-09-06 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just a part of the world. And, honestly? That's pretty much all the Malnosso are responsible for-- taking us here and running the Shifts.
everyonesconfidant: (Determined)

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[personal profile] everyonesconfidant 2012-09-06 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh... so lots of things that we used to attribute to the Malnosso are really just part of the world itself... I see.
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[personal profile] perplexme 2012-09-02 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for providing this. If I think of anything you're missing that hasn't been brought up later, I'll let you know. [In other words, he's going to just lurk and watch what other people say. Roxas may have been here for almost four years now, but he still likes to research from afar.]
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[personal profile] drawnbythesword 2012-09-03 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for putting this together, you two. I hate to say it, but even though I've been here a while now, I still have trouble remembering all this.
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[personal profile] silversnowfall 2012-09-04 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Trust me, Asbel, you aren't alone. Just having this discussion has reminded me of...all the changes I have seen since I arrived.
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[personal profile] toujoursfluer 2012-09-05 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
And how do we know this is the truth?
toujoursfluer: (hmmm)

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[personal profile] toujoursfluer 2012-09-07 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
I see. Thank you.